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Fr. Barry Fischer, C.PP.S., Moderator General of the Missionaries of the Precious Blood, preached at St. Edward Catholic Church, Newark, CA on the Feast of St. Gaspar del Bufalo.
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I guess wearing the stole over the chasuble is the norm at St. Edward's. I suspect the reason Father Jeffrey will give is that this particular stole has such a nice likeness of St. Gaspar del Bufalo. I am sure that the great St. Gaspar whose writings I love was faithful to the norms of the Mass as given by the Church in his day.

I am bracing myself for another excoriating response ...

Hey, listen. The norms of the church are very much respected here. I have been here for only three months and I have slowly begun making just a few changes to progressively bring us to what the church asks. For example, the priest now receives communion first before giving it to the extraordinary ministers. This is still confusing to some of the lay ministers, but catechesis progresses slowly in some quarters. We have some old, nice looking, brass chalices with silver plate that obviously need refinishing before we use them. We have sent one out for a bid, and we have recieved one donation from a parishioner for refinishing.

New vestments are quite expensive and will come in due time.

We are also having an ambry built.

The stole you see in the picture is hand embroidered by Sr. Isabel, CPPS. It will eventually be relegated to a concelebration stole when new vestments are obtained.

You insist on being an ignorant critic that is quick to judgement, very un-Gaspar like. You apparently like to criticize and have given little evidence of being part of the solution. You have no idea who I am or what kind of criticism I endure when I am trying to be faithful to the liturgy. Slowly but surely we will bring ourselves to the church's norms.

The stole over the chasuble was quite acceptable for 30 years. Custom has some basis in the law, and no disrespect is displayed to the sacred action in continuing this until worthy vestments are obtained. There are other matters in the liturgy that are taking some priority over this.

Tha parish has a $115,000 debt at the moment and there is some indication that we may not be able to pay our bills to finish the year. It is raining heavily today and the vestible and the choir loft is flooded. The roof needs emergency attention. The chalices, the ambry and the candles will be taken care of before we get to the vestments. Also, I am more concerned about the fact that the sanctuary does not have a crucifix. The flooring in the church is falling apart, and the pews are badly in need of refinishing. We will get to the vestments. This may be a three to five year process, depending on the economy.

Now, I certainly do not need to justify my actions to you, nor do I have to endure your ignorant judgments.

You are kindly asked to behave yourself while you visit here, or you will be politely, but firmly, be asked to leave.

You'll never hear from me again. God bless you!


I am so confused! I must admit that I do not know the laws that regulate how a mass is celebrated and each little part. I remember a few years back when Cardinal George wrote in the diocese newspaper that we could now hold hands during the Our Father. I thought to myself, who is he that he can be telling me whether I can hold someone's hand during a prayer!! Well, as I have come to find out through this blog and others that he has every right to regulate how the Mass is celebrated. That it was not mine to with as I want and it is not the priest's either. God, through His Church, regulates worship to Himself. Some of my arrogant ways have been humbled!

So what is the deal with the stole? All of the priests in my parish wear theirs on the outside. I asked one of the priests about this and he said it was ok to wear it in or out. BTW, I am just curious and not trying to start any fights. I just don't understand what the big deal is. I also acknowledge my lack of education.

336. The sacred garment common to ordained and instituted ministers of any rank is the alb, to be tied at the waist with a cincture unless it is made so as to fit even without such. Before the alb is put on, should this not completely cover the ordinary clothing at the neck, an amice should be put on. The alb may not be replaced by a surplice, not even over a cassock, on occasions when a chasuble or dalmatic is to be worn or when, according to the norms, only a stole is worn without a chasuble or dalmatic.

337. The vestment proper to the priest celebrant at Mass and other sacred actions directly connected with Mass is, unless otherwise indicated, the chasuble, worn over the alb and stole.


Hi Peter, welcome back!

Father Keyes:

The words of the post which you ascribed to me are not mine. They are the words of the Church. Bye.

I think it is pretty clear that the words you posted are the words of the Church.

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